Let’s Do a “Taxation is Theft” Campaign [FMP Op]

October 19, 2009 · 41 comments

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Taxation is theft. It’s not a new concept for me or probably for many of you, but it is a game-changing connection to make for those not familiar with liberty. So when FSK suggested a campaign to put “taxation is theft” stickers on all those political lawn sign eyesores that are polluting the public spaces these days, I thought, “Brilliant.”

Taking it to the Next Level

Let’s take this idea to the next level. How about bumper stickers, lawn signs, door hangers, talking points and a website? We can use the 2009 elections as practice for the 2010, 11 and 12 elections. We can take this thing not only nationwide but worldwide. We can ask to participate in debates. We can ask for airtime to rebut the politicians with the message that taxation is theft.

The Website

I’ve reserved the domain taxationistheft.info. All of our media can direct people here, where they can find additional media and learning and discussion opportunities. In fact, we need to mentor them.

Getting Started

How to get started? I’m going to start with the door hangers and the website. I can get the former for about 6 cents each so you can place an order by email to me@georgedonnelly.com. The sooner I get your order, the sooner this can happen. If you have ideas for the website and/or want to work on it, please comment below. If you’re an artist, I really need your help with the door hangers.

Photo credit: ColumbusCameraOp. Photo license.

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{ 41 comments }

1 gyakusetsu October 19, 2009 at 9:36 am

“Taxation is Extortion” is probably more appropriate, but doesn’t fit so well as a catch phrase.

“Theft” is just one of the (early) steps they will try to take if you don’t comply with the demand. The extorters will use battery, kidnapping, or killing, too, if you ultimately do not comply with the demand.

2 George Donnelly October 19, 2009 at 9:42 am

Those are good points. Thanks for commenting.

3 Mark Starkman October 19, 2009 at 11:14 am

I’d love to work on the website. I’m not necessarily the idea guy, but I can implement what is required.

4 George Donnelly October 19, 2009 at 11:57 am

Mark do you have webspace? need it? what software would you need if you don’t have the hosting resources? I can just hand this off to you if you like.

5 Mark Starkman October 19, 2009 at 12:37 pm

I’m actually in the process of getting rid of my current hosting and going to a variety of free services for my sites. So I would need space. Since initially we would just need to give a place to provide information and create some discussions, I think that hosting a Wordpress blog might be the way to go. I see that you are already using one, so I’m sure you understand the ease of use.

I have no problem taking it on, just need the space. Unfortunately, I am not a graphics guy so I would need some help in that area.

Thoughts?

6 Matt October 19, 2009 at 2:16 pm

I’m a graphics guy, I may have some time to devote to a project like this.

7 George Donnelly October 19, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Yes I like to use wordpress for all kinds of things, too. It’s pretty flexible. I have some space but also have a lot of experience with wordpress.

8 George Donnelly October 19, 2009 at 2:30 pm

Matt, that would rock. We need a logo. Goodiemonster gave me the one used here:

http://www.cafepress.com/EndTheState.375537382

What do you think of it?

Re/ the door hanger, this printing company seems to have reasonable prices and the templates are on their site:

http://www.printplace.com/printing/door-hanger.aspx

Let me know your thoughts.

9 Matt October 19, 2009 at 3:06 pm

That bumper sticker isn’t bad. It’s very confrontational however, which I think may turn people off and make them less inclined to look further into the issue, visit an associated website, or etc. it works fine as a bumper sticker because there’s not really any reasoned debate involved with bumper stickers.

The gun, while I understand that it’s the gun of government pointing at all tax payers, it’s a gun that will be pointing out of our propaganda at people we want to convince. If someone points a gun at you and tells you something, even if it’s true, you’re going to be less inclined to (truly) agree with them because of the threat involved.

I think we should go for something less scary and a little more friendly and inviting of reasoned discourse and further investigation with our design.

What are your thoughts? Am I way off on this?

10 George Donnelly October 19, 2009 at 3:10 pm

That’s a good point. What did you have in mind?

11 Matt October 19, 2009 at 3:34 pm

No clue as of yet. Let me play with some ideas the next few days and see what I can come up with. I liked FSK’s idea of using red to stand out. maybe a reverse bold white type on a field of red. Alarming, but not necessarily confrontational.

Any other ideas are welcome of course.

12 Brodie October 19, 2009 at 4:03 pm

I think having the gun on it is good. It gets people’s attention. I also think “taxation is extortion” is closer to the truth than “taxation is theft”. Taxation is theft is probably easier to fit on a bumper sticker though and you already have the website. It is just that I hate the arguments against it being theft. People get hung up on the semantics.

BTW, I find this very exciting. I would love a shirt and jacket that says taxation is extortion.

13 George Donnelly October 19, 2009 at 4:47 pm

I think Matt is right that it’s scary and you don’t want to scare people right off the bat. It still needs to be edgy tho. Care Bears are out. Hehe.

What about a less intimidating gun? Smaller in size and all.

I like “theft” because it’s a less complex concept than “extortion”.

What are the arguments against it? That people give it willingly? They’re still funding the theft of the unwilling.

Thanks all for your ideas and comments.

14 Brodie October 19, 2009 at 4:58 pm

Statists get hung up on the fact that the government is not entering your bank and taking it. They claim that because it is taken out of your check, that it is not theft. Again, it is just semantics.

15 George Donnelly October 20, 2009 at 8:20 am

If it’s not theft, then why don’t you (addressed to the statist) ask for that money back, just once, as an experiment. You can say that in these hard economic times you need it for your child’s health care, or to donate to a charity that funds urgent health care for children. Just to see what happens. If nothing else, you will be entertained and have a new story to tell folks.

16 Matt October 20, 2009 at 8:51 am

That argument makes no sense.

A gun could be incorporated. If it wasn’t pointed at the reader, it wouldn’t feel like we’re pointing a gun and telling someone that taxation is theft.

17 Matt October 21, 2009 at 10:37 am

Just threw these together this morning, let me know what you think: http://freesand.com/misc/taxation_is.jpg

18 George Donnelly October 22, 2009 at 10:39 am

Matt, this is great! I like the font you’re using for “theft” better than the other one and I like how you have the gun behind the word “theft”. I really like that. How about some color tho? Maybe red, yellow or orange? Something to grab attention? Really, this is great work. Thank you!

19 Matt October 22, 2009 at 11:00 am

Thanks, George!

I also prefer the option with the gun behind “theft” than the other way around but I thought I’d put them both to see what others thought. I started in B/W because you always want your logo to be able to work effectively in that color scheme, but I’ll try injecting some color and some other font options for “taxation is”

20 Matt October 23, 2009 at 11:41 am
21 George Donnelly October 23, 2009 at 5:07 pm

Hey that is looking good. I like the colors on the first one, the font of “taxation is” not so much. Seems thin/weak.

We probably won’t be ready in time for this election season but we can still disseminate the lit and have it ready for 2010.

22 Matt October 27, 2009 at 9:41 am

I don’t want to get too bold with the “taxation is” font otherwise there won’t be much visual contrast between it and the “theft” font.

Anyway, here are a few different font options: http://freesand.com/misc/taxation_is2.jpg
For the first one I bumped up the boldness of the font from the 2nd version.

23 Matt October 30, 2009 at 11:37 am

Doh, that should be: http://freesand.com/misc/taxation_is3.jpg sorry about that.

24 George Donnelly October 30, 2009 at 12:16 pm

Oh, ok, I was wondering. I like the font for “taxation” best on the next to last one. And I like the black text on white gun. What about you?

25 Matt October 30, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Interstate is a good font, one of my favorites actually. I also like the white gun, it stands out better on the red background.

What’s the next step? need a wordpress theme?

26 Mark Starkman October 30, 2009 at 1:43 pm

WordPress is the easiest. I have new webspace that will at least work for now. I’ll try and start this weekend getting everything in place. Would you plan to create the theme from scratch or use an existing theme?

27 George Donnelly October 30, 2009 at 2:02 pm

Best to use an existing theme, such as Thesis, which I already bought an unlimited license for and is very adaptable.

http://diythemes.com/thesis/

Can you produce high quality versions of the logo in possibly several variations?

I think after the logo, and then the website is up, we need to write stuff for the site (best to keep it simple with a declaration and a blog?). Then we can look into what other media to produce? For example, paper, video, ads, etc.

What do you guys think?

Also, we should probably make our goal, vision, strategy and tactics explicit in there before spending much money.

28 Mark Starkman October 30, 2009 at 2:58 pm

Sounds good. Can you get me the them files and I’ll work to get the basics up?

I can write very well, so I’ll have to leave that to other. However, I can proofread and provide input.

29 Matt November 2, 2009 at 8:52 am

Sounds good George. I’ll put together some high res versions of the logo in various formations and color options. If you can you send me the thesis theme files I can get started adapting it to the color scheme and logo.

30 Debbie November 14, 2009 at 3:19 pm

I’m conflicted. I like making the moral argument and talking about the gun is certainly not new. (The first time I heard it was years ago when I read Harry Browne’s book.)

I prefer messages that let each individual create their own imagery that makes sense in reference to their own life. Adding imagery doesn’t let one do that and you risk contaminating the message as a result.

It seems to me that the three words themselves are powerful enough without adding the gun imagery.

31 George Donnelly November 15, 2009 at 5:27 pm

Ok but I think there needs to be some logo for the effort. Any suggestions?

Apologies for not putting up the website yet. I have no excuse. But I will do it. :)

32 Debbie November 16, 2009 at 9:06 am

I don’t know, I was wondering if there was some way to use the idea of a pickpocket or something though. But that’s much more complicated than a gun. :)

33 George Donnelly November 16, 2009 at 9:19 am

A pickpocket – is that really analogous to what the government goons do tho? Thanks for the suggestion. :)

34 Debbie November 17, 2009 at 7:55 am

Eh, just brainstorming. I’ll shut up now and let you guys do it the way you think is best. Good luck with it!

35 Patrick December 17, 2009 at 1:57 pm

I know I’m coming to this thread a bit late George, but have you seen this taxation is theft t-shirt put out by LibertyManiacs (the most popular libertarian t-shirt site)?
Link: http://www.cafepress.ca/libertymaniacs/6965223

36 George Donnelly December 17, 2009 at 4:58 pm

Interesting, thanks! BTW sorry I fell off the cliff on this one guys, I will get the website up soon.

37 Patrick December 26, 2009 at 12:43 am

So George, what’s the latest on this? I must say, a global campaign against taxation (and I guess by corollary the rest of the State) sounds great!

38 George Donnelly December 29, 2009 at 9:41 am

Nothing new yet. I have to put up a website, then we can produce some paper to hand out and build on it from there. Any ideas on how to proceed?

39 Patrick December 30, 2009 at 6:00 pm

OK ic. Do you know what image you want to use?
Also, myself, I’d prefer to put up stickers in my city, than hand out paper to people. For that, I guess we’ll need a place where we can get these stickers cheaply from. I’m not sure where yet…CafePress and Zazzle seem to just sell ‘bumper stickers’ which are fairly expensive.

40 George Donnelly December 31, 2009 at 12:34 pm

I like Matt’s work so far: http://freesand.com/misc/taxation_is3.jpg

I think the project is fluid enough so each person can disseminate the message however they see fit. :)

Near me someone put up Ron Paul bumper stickers on light poles – and they’re still there! So that’s definitely a good tactic.

41 Patrick January 2, 2010 at 3:49 pm

Ah, that’s a good point. If it’s very decentralized (like the Ron Paul campaign was), then people can just do as they see fit (ie. what type of image they want to use, what type of medium…sticker vs. poster for ex, etc).
That sounds good to me!

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