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		<title>By: Ez-E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ez-E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo George I say Wut the song from The rap group NWA back in the
1980&#039;s  Fvck the Police!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo George I say Wut the song from The rap group NWA back in the<br />
1980&#8217;s  Fvck the Police!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self defense is a legitimate reason to carry a gun.  It says so right on my carry permit.

DC is a catchall that cops like to use when they know they can&#039;t arrest you for any real reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self defense is a legitimate reason to carry a gun.  It says so right on my carry permit.</p>
<p>DC is a catchall that cops like to use when they know they can&#8217;t arrest you for any real reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Kuscin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Kuscin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 03:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>§ 5503. Disorderly conduct.

a.Offense defined. -- A person is guilty of disorderly conduct if, with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he: 
1.engages in fighting or threatening, or in violent or tumultuous behavior;
2.makes unreasonable noise;
3.uses obscene language, or makes an obscene gesture; or
4.creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which serves no legitimate purpose of the actor.
Though this section does not deal with firearms, due to the nature of this code, this law has been cited by officers to suppress or discourage lawful open carry. Since a person who is not licensed per §6109 or exempted by §6106(b) MUST open carry their firearms on foot in order to avoid criminal charge, nor is there any duty for anyone licensed to conceal their handgun, open carry is not disorderly conduct. The open carrying of firearms is not by itself threatening, nor does it cause a hazardous or physically offensive condition. There are also two cases that that specifically state that a person may carry a firearm openly: Commonwealth v. Ortiz and Commonwealth v. Hawkins.

In summary, with case law to support, OC is legal and does &quot;serve a legitimate purpose of the</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>§ 5503. Disorderly conduct.</p>
<p>a.Offense defined. &#8212; A person is guilty of disorderly conduct if, with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he:<br />
1.engages in fighting or threatening, or in violent or tumultuous behavior;<br />
2.makes unreasonable noise;<br />
3.uses obscene language, or makes an obscene gesture; or<br />
4.creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which serves no legitimate purpose of the actor.<br />
Though this section does not deal with firearms, due to the nature of this code, this law has been cited by officers to suppress or discourage lawful open carry. Since a person who is not licensed per §6109 or exempted by §6106(b) MUST open carry their firearms on foot in order to avoid criminal charge, nor is there any duty for anyone licensed to conceal their handgun, open carry is not disorderly conduct. The open carrying of firearms is not by itself threatening, nor does it cause a hazardous or physically offensive condition. There are also two cases that that specifically state that a person may carry a firearm openly: Commonwealth v. Ortiz and Commonwealth v. Hawkins.</p>
<p>In summary, with case law to support, OC is legal and does &#8220;serve a legitimate purpose of the</p>
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		<title>By: George Donnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL I&#039;ve just been busy with other things. Had to travel for several days. Et cetera. Nothing new to report yet. I haven&#039;t picked up the right-to-know response from Warwick yet and Plymouth seems to think they only owe me one right-to-know request per lifetime because they totally ignored my expanded one.

I&#039;ve received nothing in the mail about any charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL I&#8217;ve just been busy with other things. Had to travel for several days. Et cetera. Nothing new to report yet. I haven&#8217;t picked up the right-to-know response from Warwick yet and Plymouth seems to think they only owe me one right-to-know request per lifetime because they totally ignored my expanded one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve received nothing in the mail about any charges.</p>
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		<title>By: O. Rly</title>
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		<dc:creator>O. Rly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has George been captured?  Is he now a prisoner of war and a political dissident in the USA?  Where is an update?

I will file a Habeas on his behalf if we can&#039;t find him, since if he&#039;s been whisked away, he probably has no avenue to reach the courts himself.  Hopefully there is some judge around honest enough to demand his production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has George been captured?  Is he now a prisoner of war and a political dissident in the USA?  Where is an update?</p>
<p>I will file a Habeas on his behalf if we can&#8217;t find him, since if he&#8217;s been whisked away, he probably has no avenue to reach the courts himself.  Hopefully there is some judge around honest enough to demand his production.</p>
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		<title>By: George Donnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc that&#039;s pretty funny. I suspect I&#039;d be a bag o&#039; bones in seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc that&#8217;s pretty funny. I suspect I&#8217;d be a bag o&#8217; bones in seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright George, I know I&#039;ve been giving you a bunch of shit, but here&#039;s a serious hypothetical situation for the readers.

George Donnelly vs Steven Seagal: Lawman in a no-holds-barred battle of stubbornness in the Warwick Diner

GO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright George, I know I&#8217;ve been giving you a bunch of shit, but here&#8217;s a serious hypothetical situation for the readers.</p>
<p>George Donnelly vs Steven Seagal: Lawman in a no-holds-barred battle of stubbornness in the Warwick Diner</p>
<p>GO!</p>
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		<title>By: George Donnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe. 

I noticed that about the citation, too. He told me I would get it in the mail.

That just makes me even more convinced he was trying to &quot;break&quot; me and when I didn&#039;t break he felt he had to save face and follow it through with a visit to jail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe. </p>
<p>I noticed that about the citation, too. He told me I would get it in the mail.</p>
<p>That just makes me even more convinced he was trying to &#8220;break&#8221; me and when I didn&#8217;t break he felt he had to save face and follow it through with a visit to jail.</p>
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		<title>By: O. Rly</title>
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		<dc:creator>O. Rly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not being a proper statist.  

I just saw a charge on someone&#039;s docket the other day: &quot;Improp Sunscreening&quot;.  Is the nature of that charge &quot;not applying a cream with an appropriate SPF rating?&quot;  Anything is possible.

It has further occurred to me that the officer did not follow &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/s441.html&quot;&gt;Rule 441&lt;/a&gt;, which states that a citation must be issued following release from custody after arrest, or the defendant must be brought before a magistrate.   If this officer somehow thought he was detaining instead of arresting, the officer needs a good reason not to issue the citation at the time of having probable cause of the summary offense, per &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/s410.html&quot;&gt;Rule 410&lt;/a&gt;; otherwise, the citation should have been issued and the officer had to file the citations with the proper MDJ within 5 days, per &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/s406.html&quot;&gt;Rule 406&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not being a proper statist.  </p>
<p>I just saw a charge on someone&#8217;s docket the other day: &#8220;Improp Sunscreening&#8221;.  Is the nature of that charge &#8220;not applying a cream with an appropriate SPF rating?&#8221;  Anything is possible.</p>
<p>It has further occurred to me that the officer did not follow <a href="http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/s441.html">Rule 441</a>, which states that a citation must be issued following release from custody after arrest, or the defendant must be brought before a magistrate.   If this officer somehow thought he was detaining instead of arresting, the officer needs a good reason not to issue the citation at the time of having probable cause of the summary offense, per <a href="http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/s410.html">Rule 410</a>; otherwise, the citation should have been issued and the officer had to file the citations with the proper MDJ within 5 days, per <a href="http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/s406.html">Rule 406</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: George Donnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks O. It seemed positive but you&#039;re right, anything could happen. They might even figure out how to charge me with something more serious, though I can&#039;t figure out what that might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks O. It seemed positive but you&#8217;re right, anything could happen. They might even figure out how to charge me with something more serious, though I can&#8217;t figure out what that might be.</p>
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		<title>By: O. Rly</title>
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		<dc:creator>O. Rly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m certainly surprised that they would pass this on to the DA, and I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s better that way or worse.  On one hand, you have the appearance of authority from the police department; on the other hand, you haven&#039;t yet been able to get all the info to the DA that they&#039;d need (one of the most important things, I would think, is getting (notarized?) statements from the witnesses, starting with Mr. Instructor whom would hopefully be your best witness.)  I suppose that if the DA fails to swiftly take action, you can put together the private criminal with the added investigative materials (and hopefully some fun supplemental things to aid in the prosecution, like court cases and such.)

Arrests for summary offenses must be specifically designated by law (IIRC) and the whole summary case system is supposed to be designed to avoid such things except where extremely necessary.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/chap4toc.html&quot;&gt;Committee Introduction to Chapter 4:&lt;/a&gt; (right under the table of contents on that page) and read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/s441.html&quot;&gt;Rule 441 of the PA Rules of Criminal Procedure&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m certainly surprised that they would pass this on to the DA, and I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s better that way or worse.  On one hand, you have the appearance of authority from the police department; on the other hand, you haven&#8217;t yet been able to get all the info to the DA that they&#8217;d need (one of the most important things, I would think, is getting (notarized?) statements from the witnesses, starting with Mr. Instructor whom would hopefully be your best witness.)  I suppose that if the DA fails to swiftly take action, you can put together the private criminal with the added investigative materials (and hopefully some fun supplemental things to aid in the prosecution, like court cases and such.)</p>
<p>Arrests for summary offenses must be specifically designated by law (IIRC) and the whole summary case system is supposed to be designed to avoid such things except where extremely necessary.  See <a href="http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/chap4toc.html">Committee Introduction to Chapter 4:</a> (right under the table of contents on that page) and read <a href="http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/234/chapter4/s441.html">Rule 441 of the PA Rules of Criminal Procedure</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: John Connolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a crime committed in this interaction, BY THE COPS! That&#039;s what they should be investigating and charging! We do not tolerate Jack-boots in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a crime committed in this interaction, BY THE COPS! That&#8217;s what they should be investigating and charging! We do not tolerate Jack-boots in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent. Taken at face value, Mr. Goldberg seems to be approaching this with an open mind.  It&#039;s best to treat him in good faith until you see evidence otherwise.  

Good questions, the &quot;conditions vary&quot; regarding arrest for DC is an important data point.  The &quot;trumped up&quot; question was a bit of a cheap shot, and doesn&#039;t help you here, but it could probably be reworded in a more constructive way.  Otherwise, good work.  Don&#039;t hold your breath, but there is a chance that the DA may decide to go after the cop and not you.

I&#039;d make an effort to get witness statements preemptively.  You can bet the cops who do interview them will be very manipulative in getting the answers they want, and getting those witnesses to believe those answers even if they are utterly false.  

Since the DA has this, you want a lawyer. Now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent. Taken at face value, Mr. Goldberg seems to be approaching this with an open mind.  It&#8217;s best to treat him in good faith until you see evidence otherwise.  </p>
<p>Good questions, the &#8220;conditions vary&#8221; regarding arrest for DC is an important data point.  The &#8220;trumped up&#8221; question was a bit of a cheap shot, and doesn&#8217;t help you here, but it could probably be reworded in a more constructive way.  Otherwise, good work.  Don&#8217;t hold your breath, but there is a chance that the DA may decide to go after the cop and not you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d make an effort to get witness statements preemptively.  You can bet the cops who do interview them will be very manipulative in getting the answers they want, and getting those witnesses to believe those answers even if they are utterly false.  </p>
<p>Since the DA has this, you want a lawyer. Now.</p>
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		<title>By: Warwick Township Cop Assaults, Kidnaps and Imprisons Me Over My Request for Business Card &#124; George Donnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warwick Township Cop Assaults, Kidnaps and Imprisons Me Over My Request for Business Card &#124; George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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