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		<title>By: M Carling</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Carling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were 8 regional reps last term, not 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were 8 regional reps last term, not 9.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think &quot;licensed and registered professional parliamentarian.&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think &#8220;licensed and registered professional parliamentarian.&#8221; <img src='http://georgedonnelly.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: George Donnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think he is talking about Chuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think he is talking about Chuck.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish it would be the loyal libertarian volunteer who was not re-elected, but if you&#039;re talking about Chuck Moulton (whom I would have really really liked to see on the LNC once more), he&#039;s said publicly that he&#039;s not interested in serving on the LNC this term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish it would be the loyal libertarian volunteer who was not re-elected, but if you&#8217;re talking about Chuck Moulton (whom I would have really really liked to see on the LNC once more), he&#8217;s said publicly that he&#8217;s not interested in serving on the LNC this term.</p>
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		<title>By: George Phillies</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Phillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correcting my own math: There are 8 regional reps, not 9 like last time, so there are 17 LNC members, not 18, and 6 NO votes defeats for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correcting my own math: There are 8 regional reps, not 9 like last time, so there are 17 LNC members, not 18, and 6 NO votes defeats for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: George Phillies</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Phillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Removing a member (the term of art is &#039;suspending&#039;) from the LNC requires a 2/3 vote.  Assuming that everyone shows up, and assuming that the radical wing doesn&#039;t decide to form an internal circular firing squad again, it appears to me to be difficult to see how the people who want to go after Angela can readily get a 2/3 vote.  There are four obvious &quot;NO&quot; votes that ought to be rock solid, recalling that until Angela is removed she is entitled to vote, and another four votes that seem somewhat plausible, especially if they are reminded of who the new LNC member is likely to be.  (Hint: A loyal libertarian volunteer who was not re-elected.)

Mindful that there are 18 LNC members, 6 NO votes goes to an 11-6 vote, which defeats unless Bill Redpath uses his vote as chair to make it 12-6.  Readers may recall the 2002 or so LNC meeting in which the  LNC chair voted on a motion related to the 1996 Presidential campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Removing a member (the term of art is &#8217;suspending&#8217;) from the LNC requires a 2/3 vote.  Assuming that everyone shows up, and assuming that the radical wing doesn&#8217;t decide to form an internal circular firing squad again, it appears to me to be difficult to see how the people who want to go after Angela can readily get a 2/3 vote.  There are four obvious &#8220;NO&#8221; votes that ought to be rock solid, recalling that until Angela is removed she is entitled to vote, and another four votes that seem somewhat plausible, especially if they are reminded of who the new LNC member is likely to be.  (Hint: A loyal libertarian volunteer who was not re-elected.)</p>
<p>Mindful that there are 18 LNC members, 6 NO votes goes to an 11-6 vote, which defeats unless Bill Redpath uses his vote as chair to make it 12-6.  Readers may recall the 2002 or so LNC meeting in which the  LNC chair voted on a motion related to the 1996 Presidential campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: George Donnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot that is right about the LP. I&#039;ve encountered many many good people. A few names that come to mind right away are Jim Lark, Mike Munger and Austin Peterson.

The most vocal BTPers will usually say that there is nothing good about the LP and trying to make it better is a waste of time. I&#039;m not convinced. I do think there is a lot we can do better.

The BTP is no bed of roses either. Very few people are involved in the development of the party AFAICT.

If they do remove Keaton though, they will be digging their own grave. That&#039;s just the kind of thing the BTP needs to start another growth spurt.

Thanks for commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot that is right about the LP. I&#8217;ve encountered many many good people. A few names that come to mind right away are Jim Lark, Mike Munger and Austin Peterson.</p>
<p>The most vocal BTPers will usually say that there is nothing good about the LP and trying to make it better is a waste of time. I&#8217;m not convinced. I do think there is a lot we can do better.</p>
<p>The BTP is no bed of roses either. Very few people are involved in the development of the party AFAICT.</p>
<p>If they do remove Keaton though, they will be digging their own grave. That&#8217;s just the kind of thing the BTP needs to start another growth spurt.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariana Evica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariana Evica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, please, give me some reasons to not abandon hope for the LP. Angela Keaton is what is *right* about the Libertarian Party. Well, she and Mary Ruwart.

Now I feel more inclined to romance Keaton and Ruwart away from the LP and toward the BTP. I cannot tell you the anger and disgust this is provoking in me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, please, give me some reasons to not abandon hope for the LP. Angela Keaton is what is *right* about the Libertarian Party. Well, she and Mary Ruwart.</p>
<p>Now I feel more inclined to romance Keaton and Ruwart away from the LP and toward the BTP. I cannot tell you the anger and disgust this is provoking in me.</p>
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		<title>By: George Donnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Donnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely, all set. Well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, all set. Well said!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d appreciate being cc&#039;ed as well, George - would you add that?  I plan to ask Robert Kraus and Robert Sullentrup to add comments to minutes and binder, as I&#039;ve gotten so many.

And thanks for the props . . .    :o)  Not to take away from Sully; I consider it part of my job, as well.  To keep &lt;b&gt;my &lt;/b&gt;constituents informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d appreciate being cc&#8217;ed as well, George &#8211; would you add that?  I plan to ask Robert Kraus and Robert Sullentrup to add comments to minutes and binder, as I&#8217;ve gotten so many.</p>
<p>And thanks for the props . . .    <img src='http://georgedonnelly.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )  Not to take away from Sully; I consider it part of my job, as well.  To keep <b>my </b>constituents informed.</p>
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